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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: A lot of "Operation Aborted"
« on: January 28, 2009, 11:11:16 PM »
Hi Alberto,
This was fixed for some versions of IE in PR28, and the rest of the versions in PR29.
so make sure you have the latest build.
In PR30 I've undone the fix, and done it a different way.
Cheers
Bruce
This was fixed for some versions of IE in PR28, and the rest of the versions in PR29.
so make sure you have the latest build.
In PR30 I've undone the fix, and done it a different way.
Cheers
Bruce
10442
Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Volunteers Needed to run Test
« on: January 28, 2009, 10:57:01 PM »
ok, then no need -
cheers
Bruce
cheers
Bruce
10443
Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Local characters in FireFox
« on: January 27, 2009, 11:06:27 PM »
Hi Espen,
thanks for the update - I'll see if I can duplicate....
Cheers
Bruce
thanks for the update - I'll see if I can duplicate....
Cheers
Bruce
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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Date Lookup Issue, PR29
« on: January 27, 2009, 11:05:22 PM »
Hi Bryan,
Yes, your problem is very different to Johan's.
I didn't manage to duplicate yesterday, but I'll try again today with the updated info.
If it's a browser setting though there may not be much I can do - we'll have to see...
cheers
Bruce
Yes, your problem is very different to Johan's.
I didn't manage to duplicate yesterday, but I'll try again today with the updated info.
If it's a browser setting though there may not be much I can do - we'll have to see...
cheers
Bruce
10445
Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Volunteers Needed to run Test
« on: January 27, 2009, 10:58:02 PM »
Hi Graham,
since we're making suggestions - how about a "refresh" button to refresh the number of server connections currently open.
Cheers
Bruce
since we're making suggestions - how about a "refresh" button to refresh the number of server connections currently open.
Cheers
Bruce
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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Small Business Server ISA Firewall, Dual NIC Router
« on: January 27, 2009, 12:37:52 AM »
Hi Steve,
I don't have experience with the layout you're describing. However it sounds to me that the problem is still in the "incoming route" declaration.
Typically with a router you have to "open" incoming ports, and match them to a machine/port on the LAN. The setup you've described above would still require this "route" to be declared, even if the routing was being done in software on a Windows PC.
I have zero details for you though - merely that hint.
Cheers
Bruce
I don't have experience with the layout you're describing. However it sounds to me that the problem is still in the "incoming route" declaration.
Typically with a router you have to "open" incoming ports, and match them to a machine/port on the LAN. The setup you've described above would still require this "route" to be declared, even if the routing was being done in software on a Windows PC.
I have zero details for you though - merely that hint.
Cheers
Bruce
10447
Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: 2 browses on 1 form. PR29. (Repost)
« on: January 27, 2009, 12:35:23 AM »
Hi Bryan,
I've fixed it again for PR30. It was fixed in PR25, but then an IE bug manifested. The fixing of the IE bug undid the original fix for this problem.
So now I've crafted a fix which solves the issue, but without triggering the IE bug.
>> Is it possible to keep old versions available for download. PR23 was quite stable for me.
I've resisted doing this purely on administrative grounds. But of course I would recommend that you keep installs if you want to be able to roll back.
PR30 should be up late today.
Cheers
Bruce
I've fixed it again for PR30. It was fixed in PR25, but then an IE bug manifested. The fixing of the IE bug undid the original fix for this problem.
So now I've crafted a fix which solves the issue, but without triggering the IE bug.
>> Is it possible to keep old versions available for download. PR23 was quite stable for me.
I've resisted doing this purely on administrative grounds. But of course I would recommend that you keep installs if you want to be able to roll back.
PR30 should be up late today.
Cheers
Bruce
10448
Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Display an Image from a blob
« on: January 27, 2009, 12:32:48 AM »
Hi Neil,
Example number 40 (File Download) shows how to serve any "page" (images, scripts, css files,whatever) from a blob rather than from disk.
Cheers
Bruce
Example number 40 (File Download) shows how to serve any "page" (images, scripts, css files,whatever) from a blob rather than from disk.
Cheers
Bruce
10449
Web Server - Ask For Help / Volunteers Needed to run Test
« on: January 27, 2009, 12:29:08 AM »
Hi Guys,
This is a different kind of request for help.
Graham Smith is interested in knowing how well the NetTalk Simple Server (which is the layer on which the web server is built) performs under load.
To this end he has set up a server at a large ISP with plenty of bandwidth. He has also written a small client app which will open connections to this server, and at very specific times will make requests on the server.
This effectively tests 2 things;
a) The number of "open connections" supported by the server. As you know web connections are only open for a brief instant - but it's still important to know if there are any limits on this front.
b) the performance issue, if any, when large numbers of clients make a request "at the same time".
Graham has graciously agreed to make the results of his tests available to the whole NetTalk community (good or bad). From our side we're interested to know the result, and if necessary to set the benchmark against which we can measure improvements.
Graham's page for this test is here
http://www.gsasoftware.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8&Itemid=10
So what do we need you for?
Well to make the test valid we need as many people to run the test client as possible. The official test will run from Feb 1 to Feb 14, but if you can please download and run the client, on as many computers as you have, as soon as possible that would be great.
Graham has gone to great lengths to minimize the bandwidth consumed by the test (for each client) and also to make absolutely sure that no identifying information is passed to the server. He has released the source code to the client for inspection so feel free to compile that and run that if you prefer.
Thanks again.
Cheers
Bruce
This is a different kind of request for help.
Graham Smith is interested in knowing how well the NetTalk Simple Server (which is the layer on which the web server is built) performs under load.
To this end he has set up a server at a large ISP with plenty of bandwidth. He has also written a small client app which will open connections to this server, and at very specific times will make requests on the server.
This effectively tests 2 things;
a) The number of "open connections" supported by the server. As you know web connections are only open for a brief instant - but it's still important to know if there are any limits on this front.
b) the performance issue, if any, when large numbers of clients make a request "at the same time".
Graham has graciously agreed to make the results of his tests available to the whole NetTalk community (good or bad). From our side we're interested to know the result, and if necessary to set the benchmark against which we can measure improvements.
Graham's page for this test is here
http://www.gsasoftware.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8&Itemid=10
So what do we need you for?
Well to make the test valid we need as many people to run the test client as possible. The official test will run from Feb 1 to Feb 14, but if you can please download and run the client, on as many computers as you have, as soon as possible that would be great.
Graham has gone to great lengths to minimize the bandwidth consumed by the test (for each client) and also to make absolutely sure that no identifying information is passed to the server. He has released the source code to the client for inspection so feel free to compile that and run that if you prefer.
Thanks again.
Cheers
Bruce
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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: insert not restoring position properly on multiple tab form
« on: January 26, 2009, 01:45:46 AM »
Hi John,
specifically - try using the XP-Tabs tab style. I'm testing using that, and the tab focus seems to work ok.
There is an older tab style as well - but, the XP one looks better, and works better.
Cheers
Bruce
specifically - try using the XP-Tabs tab style. I'm testing using that, and the tab focus seems to work ok.
There is an older tab style as well - but, the XP one looks better, and works better.
Cheers
Bruce
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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Multiple sites - one server - part two
« on: January 26, 2009, 12:34:04 AM »
to be clear...
- your current NT4 app converts _very_ easily to the new format. There are 2 or 3 settings to change in the app, that's all. Takes about 30 seconds to do.
- you can continue to build, and test, the app as an EXE, then it gets converted to be a DLL before you deploy.
- You can still deploy as a stand-alone exe if you choose - you don't _have_ to use the single-server.
- multiple apps (DLL's) can be attached to the same Single Server.
- the single server chooses which dll to use based on the host name. So multiple apps (DLLs) share the same port. The single-server determines which DLL gets the request based on the host name.
Bruce
- your current NT4 app converts _very_ easily to the new format. There are 2 or 3 settings to change in the app, that's all. Takes about 30 seconds to do.
- you can continue to build, and test, the app as an EXE, then it gets converted to be a DLL before you deploy.
- You can still deploy as a stand-alone exe if you choose - you don't _have_ to use the single-server.
- multiple apps (DLL's) can be attached to the same Single Server.
- the single server chooses which dll to use based on the host name. So multiple apps (DLLs) share the same port. The single-server determines which DLL gets the request based on the host name.
Bruce
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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Multiple sites - one server - part two
« on: January 25, 2009, 11:48:04 PM »
Hi Johan,
Good questions...
>> a) Does this new way do away with the ports (www.xxxxxx.co.za:89)?
>> b) Does this mean that the user will only put in www.xxxxx.co.za and get to the NT app?
At the moment you only need to use the extra port syntax if you have multiple web servers on the same machine, sharing the same IP number. So, for example, if you have Apache or IIS running on port 80, then you can't (easily) run another app on port 80.
[aside: Graham Smith, and others have examples showing how to do this with Apache if that's what you need to run as well.]
[aside: Skype defaults to port 80 as well, but you can change this in your skype settings. ]
Now, currently if you have _more than 1_ NT web app, then at last one of them will be on a port other than 80. Forcing the syntax you described above.
With NT5, the "single server" can serve multiple _non SSL_ sites. So, assuming port 80 is available to this app, then all your sites can be shared on port 80, and hence the user won't need to type in the :89.
>> c) If b) is true will I be able to run mixes of the old and new way?
all the rules still apply. The "single server" owns one port/ip combination. Other programs use other ports etc. So you can still have other programs running on port 89 as before, or any other port. The new "single server" exe does not interfere with other NetTalk web apps, or indeed other apps of any kind, in any way.
Cheers
Bruce
Good questions...
>> a) Does this new way do away with the ports (www.xxxxxx.co.za:89)?
>> b) Does this mean that the user will only put in www.xxxxx.co.za and get to the NT app?
At the moment you only need to use the extra port syntax if you have multiple web servers on the same machine, sharing the same IP number. So, for example, if you have Apache or IIS running on port 80, then you can't (easily) run another app on port 80.
[aside: Graham Smith, and others have examples showing how to do this with Apache if that's what you need to run as well.]
[aside: Skype defaults to port 80 as well, but you can change this in your skype settings. ]
Now, currently if you have _more than 1_ NT web app, then at last one of them will be on a port other than 80. Forcing the syntax you described above.
With NT5, the "single server" can serve multiple _non SSL_ sites. So, assuming port 80 is available to this app, then all your sites can be shared on port 80, and hence the user won't need to type in the :89.
>> c) If b) is true will I be able to run mixes of the old and new way?
all the rules still apply. The "single server" owns one port/ip combination. Other programs use other ports etc. So you can still have other programs running on port 89 as before, or any other port. The new "single server" exe does not interfere with other NetTalk web apps, or indeed other apps of any kind, in any way.
Cheers
Bruce
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Web Server - Share Knowledge / Re: Example Nettalk Sites
« on: January 25, 2009, 11:33:21 PM »
Hi Bill,
thanks for the posting - looks like you've been a tad busy <g>
Cheers
Bruce
thanks for the posting - looks like you've been a tad busy <g>
Cheers
Bruce
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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: Multiple sites - one server - part two
« on: January 24, 2009, 08:28:17 PM »
Hi Sjoerd,
The good news is that it can be done.
The bad news is that it requires NetTalk 5. Well sort of. If you're in a big hurry for this feature contact me.
At the moment we're using it in a "test" phase to host www.capesoft.com and www.cstimeclocks.com. It's been working for a while so I'm reasonably happy with the technology.
It works by you turning your app into a DLL rather than an Exe. The WebServer and WebHandler procedures are then set as "exported" in the DLL. Nothing else has to be exported.
The "host" is a separate exe to which you can attach (at runtime) your DLL. The Host has a web server in it as well, so you can manage the process remotely via a browser. You can start, and stop sites independently of each other, and you can add new sites without stopping the server.
At this stage you're only allowed 1 secure site though (which effectively means secure sites run on their own port as before.)
Cheers
Bruce
The good news is that it can be done.
The bad news is that it requires NetTalk 5. Well sort of. If you're in a big hurry for this feature contact me.
At the moment we're using it in a "test" phase to host www.capesoft.com and www.cstimeclocks.com. It's been working for a while so I'm reasonably happy with the technology.
It works by you turning your app into a DLL rather than an Exe. The WebServer and WebHandler procedures are then set as "exported" in the DLL. Nothing else has to be exported.
The "host" is a separate exe to which you can attach (at runtime) your DLL. The Host has a web server in it as well, so you can manage the process remotely via a browser. You can start, and stop sites independently of each other, and you can add new sites without stopping the server.
At this stage you're only allowed 1 secure site though (which effectively means secure sites run on their own port as before.)
Cheers
Bruce
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Web Server - Ask For Help / Re: insert not restoring position properly on multiple tab form
« on: January 22, 2009, 11:09:03 PM »
Hi John,
yeah, ok, but then what is the "default" set to on the web server?
Cheers
Bruce
yeah, ok, but then what is the "default" set to on the web server?
Cheers
Bruce